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Yero the Hero
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posted 10-17-2007 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you're not a moderator, go away, you can't read this!
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Just kidding.

Okay, in light of recent events, I suggest us Mods form a system of checks and balances so no one moderator outshines the rest.

So, aside from the obvious spam and trolls, I suggest we use this thread to ask whether or not it is appropriate to close/delete a topic/post/etc. I say, considering delays and whatnot, that one needs at least two other people's verification to go ahead.

Does this sound good?

ETA a few things since the "Lower Elements" are getting offended: Anyone can cotribute to how they feel about a certain thread or post. I merely started this as a "Mods Only" thread because, frankly, only Mods can delete or lock threads. It's not so much about cleaning out the boards; it has more to do with the fact that any mod can delete any thread, and it's not fair to others for one mod to do so. I know, because that's what I did before starting tis thread.

So please, if you are not a mmoderator, don't be so overly sensitive and try to start a revolution. Everyone's voice can be heard.

[This message has been edited by Yero the Hero (edited 01-12-2008).]

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Saint Aelphaba
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posted 10-17-2007 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saint Aelphaba     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good.

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helenbooktrip
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posted 10-17-2007 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for helenbooktrip   Click Here to Email helenbooktrip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not think this sounds good. This kind of stuff is why moderators have such bad reputations for power tripping and being arrogant. I don't think any of want to become that kind of moderator.

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Yero the Hero
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posted 10-17-2007 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So let me get this straight: you would rather have mods delete anything they find suitable, rather than checking to see if everyone else agrees?

No offense, but it sounds like you got the opposite meaning of my post...

Glad to see you're on board, St. A!

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Rhiannon18
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posted 10-17-2007 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rhiannon18   Click Here to Email Rhiannon18     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed that Im a moderator for the Lost board.......

But I havent even read Lost. Thats a tad strange.

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lostladyknight
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posted 10-17-2007 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lostladyknight   Click Here to Email lostladyknight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that for bigger descisions we should all talk about things.

But, at the same time, I don't want to feel like I have to have permission from you guys to put a stop to the next EBitch or Faeforever.

Yes I think that we ought to have a system of "checks and balances" so to speak. I mean, if someone was going to make a big decision like the deletion of "General Chinwagging" or of some other large chunk of the board's archives. Then we should make the decision in the form of a democratic republic. We, the mods, speak for everyone and have a vote amongst ourselves. I just feel that having to have permission from 2 other members seems a bit excessive.

Perhaps this thread would be of better use if it were a place that we could bring up issues that we find troublesome. For instance, if there is a thread that seems like it could potentially cause a fight one of us calls it to attention in this thread. Then we all know to watch it and whoever happens to be around if and when it gets messy can jump to and deal with it, if it's in their board. Or if something is going on in a forum that we don't have soverignty over we can call it to attention in this thread and that board's moderators will know to look into the situation.

Does any of that make sense? Using this as more a thread for monitoring possible problems and/or issues. Or using it to vote on large scale remodeling?

I'm not trying to say that your method isn't a great idea, just bringing an alternative to light. I'll agree to whichever form of system that you all think is best.

I do think that there should be a way, outside of GM, for all of us mods to contact each other regarding some of the bigger issues on the boards. You know, so we can talk about potential problem members without causing trouble. Or more specific user related problems.

Uhh... I think that's all I have to say.

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Yero the Hero
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posted 10-17-2007 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
So, aside from the obvious spam and trolls,

Is everyone having trouble reading my post??????

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Plant a Note
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posted 10-17-2007 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plant a Note     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, I think when it comes to spam and trolls, we take matters into our hands however we see fit. I think that answers your question YtH.
But if it comes to deleting an entire thread, various posts that we don't think are suitable for whatever reason, etc., etc., we should certainly come to common ground to discuss.

I believe that all of our emails are posted now that we are all mods. I don't spend much time on any messenger services anymore so email would be the best way to reach me, I check it throughout the day.

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Wicked Awesome
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posted 10-17-2007 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wicked Awesome   Click Here to Email Wicked Awesome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, I think that leaving a thread that contains trolls only feeds the fire. If we leave it because we have to discuss with the other mods then it will only get worse. Some things I think we should take upon ourselves to delete, but....that doesn't mean going delete happy.

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lostladyknight
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posted 10-17-2007 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lostladyknight   Click Here to Email lostladyknight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WA would you like me to delete your second post? I wouldn't mind.

Yeah, YTH, if someone want's to do something drastic that doesn't pertain to spam or torlls I agree that we ought to check in with the other mods.

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helenbooktrip
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posted 10-17-2007 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for helenbooktrip   Click Here to Email helenbooktrip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
all that up there...that's what i meant.

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Minxy
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posted 10-17-2007 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Minxy   Click Here to Email Minxy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just an idea... no hard feelings if you guys don't like it

One thing we can use this thread for is to note what we've done.

Ex:
"Deleted a post at request of poster."
"Deleted duplicate thread."

So that things don't just disappear without people knowing why...

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lostladyknight
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posted 10-17-2007 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lostladyknight   Click Here to Email lostladyknight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well then... PAN and I deleted hundreds of threads in SoAW because they were porn.

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Wicked Awesome
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posted 10-17-2007 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wicked Awesome   Click Here to Email Wicked Awesome     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lostladyknight:
WA would you like me to delete your second post? I wouldn't mind.

Yeah, YTH, if someone want's to do something drastic that doesn't pertain to spam or torlls I agree that we ought to check in with the other mods.


Oh yes, thank you.

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lostladyknight
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posted 10-17-2007 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lostladyknight   Click Here to Email lostladyknight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Done.

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helenbooktrip
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posted 10-18-2007 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for helenbooktrip   Click Here to Email helenbooktrip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HBT Mod. Log Oct.18th/2007:
i havnt had to do any MOD stuff yet.

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lostladyknight
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posted 10-18-2007 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lostladyknight   Click Here to Email lostladyknight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LLK Mod Log 10-18-07
Deleted a thread at request of Elphaba Thropp.

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Plant a Note
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posted 10-18-2007 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plant a Note     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PaN Mod Log 10/18/07:
Deleted a bunch more spam off SOAW board EXCEPT for anything potentially pornographic. I'm at work and can't take a chance of opening those threads here.

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Elphaba Thropp
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posted 10-18-2007 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elphaba Thropp   Click Here to Email Elphaba Thropp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lostladyknight:
LLK Mod Log 10-18-07
Deleted a thread at request of Elphaba Thropp.

Thanks!

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Elphaba Thropp
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posted 10-18-2007 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elphaba Thropp   Click Here to Email Elphaba Thropp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just deleting porn on Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister and the was a topic that was started in 2005 and no one has posted on it sence the topic was started. Do you think I can delet it?

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Plant a Note
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posted 10-19-2007 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plant a Note     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NO NO NO. We do NOT delete topics just because they are old. Absolutely not!

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Elphaba Thropp
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posted 10-19-2007 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elphaba Thropp   Click Here to Email Elphaba Thropp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Even if it is just useless and taking up space? I mean the only person who wrote on it was the topic starter and no one has repiled to it sence the topic starter started it! (There are no replies on it what so ever)

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Plant a Note
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posted 10-19-2007 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plant a Note     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which thread are you referring to? If it's the one from iDefy titled "brand new" that just says he/she just bought the book but doesn't contribute anything to actual discussion, then I would agree that it could be deleted, but that's just my opinion. I would let others chime in first.

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Elphaba Thropp
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posted 10-19-2007 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elphaba Thropp   Click Here to Email Elphaba Thropp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah that is the one I was talking about and ok I will wait for other peoples opinons!

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helenbooktrip
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posted 10-19-2007 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for helenbooktrip   Click Here to Email helenbooktrip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Elphaba Thropp:
I was just deleting porn on Confessions of an Ugly Stepsister and the was a topic that was started in 2005 and no one has posted on it sence the topic was started. Do you think I can delet it?


i say any threads that can promote discussion, you leave on. you never know if new members will want to contribute to old threads. you need to leave those alone.

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helenbooktrip
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posted 10-19-2007 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for helenbooktrip   Click Here to Email helenbooktrip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HBT Mod Log OCT192007

Deleted spam threads from Confessions forum. (ie: Confession+of+an+Ugly+Stepsister). As well the thread braught up by PaN, started bu iDefy called "Brand New" that would lead to no discussion at all. (ie: "I just baught the book. I guess I'll be talking to you all soon"...although not those exact words, but you get the point)

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lostladyknight
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posted 10-19-2007 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lostladyknight   Click Here to Email lostladyknight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LLK MOD LOG 10/19/07
Finished deleting back spam posts in SoAW forum!

SoAW is clean and pretty now!

Thank you PaN for all of your help I couldn't have done it without you!

[This message has been edited by lostladyknight (edited 10-19-2007).]

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Plant a Note
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posted 10-19-2007 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plant a Note     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome LLK.

Ok guys, I'd like to bring everyone's attention to the "Was there ever a witch of the south" thread. Please read through it (it's quick, I promise) and let me know if you agree with my post.

Thanks.

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lostladyknight
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posted 10-19-2007 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lostladyknight   Click Here to Email lostladyknight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, I've noticed a spam thread near the top of Confessions and I can't delete it myself, so would someone please take care of that? Thankee.

And PaN, I read, I agree, please take care of it!

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Minxy
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posted 10-19-2007 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Minxy   Click Here to Email Minxy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the clean up PAN.

edit to add a thought:
I wish there was a way to PM or otherwise message members to say something out of public. I can foresee perhaps needing to give a warning to someone- but I'd be reluctant to send a first warning in front of everybody. I don't want to draw anyone out, especially if they may not have realized they did something wrong...

Do most of us have a current email address at least connected to our names?

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Yero the Hero
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posted 10-19-2007 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PaN, it is done. I agree.

Sidenote: I love how this thread is working.

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lostladyknight
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posted 10-19-2007 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lostladyknight   Click Here to Email lostladyknight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps this can be something PaN and I request... when we submit our list of requests.

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Plant a Note
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posted 10-19-2007 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plant a Note     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely. Oh, but I should state for the record that I don't know what "PM" stands for besides "Prime Minister" and the afternoon time.

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lostladyknight
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posted 10-19-2007 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lostladyknight   Click Here to Email lostladyknight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Private Message.

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Minxy
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posted 10-19-2007 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Minxy   Click Here to Email Minxy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Pan heh PM=private message. Basically what I was thinking was a built in email system through the boards. No one would have to give out their emails unless they desired it.

I have no idea how that would affect the boards as a whole. It seems like it would require a large overhaul.

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Yero the Hero
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posted 10-19-2007 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would love to have PMs. They come in handy.

ETA: Shall we delete all of the other posts in the "Witch of the North" thread pertaining to that incident?

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helenbooktrip
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posted 10-20-2007 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for helenbooktrip   Click Here to Email helenbooktrip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lostladyknight:
[B]Also, I've noticed a spam thread near the top of Confessions and I can't delete it myself, so would someone please take care of that? Thankee.
[B]

i deleted it.

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helenbooktrip
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posted 10-20-2007 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for helenbooktrip   Click Here to Email helenbooktrip     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm really afraid of starting something bad here, but i think i should just put the thought out there.
in the rants and raves thread, when YtH raved about the something he got in the mail from a certain someone that all the mods are getting...i find that kind of stuff just starts tiny arguements and jealousy in the forums. not saying what the gift is for one, and then saying that only mods get it. i dont want to be one of those forums where the mods go on a power trip and make everyone else feel inferior. its never been like that here before and i really dont want it to change. i dont want to start a fight and i am completely open to hearing what everyone else has to say about this. maybe we can just watch ourselves and the way we word things. none of us are crazy ego mods and i'd like to keep it that way.

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Minxy
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posted 10-20-2007 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Minxy   Click Here to Email Minxy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually agree with you. I wanted to say something about that (what yero said) but wasn't sure how to put it. Anything I thought of would have only made things worse in my opinion. I think I understood something differently than some other people. *shrugs*

See this is why I want PMS!

er I mean PMs. I'm kinda enjoying no PMS right now.

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Yero the Hero
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posted 10-20-2007 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that comment was better suited to PMs, but I only posted that because I was excited. I specifically didn't say anything because I was trying to avoid a scene. It's not as though it's something that happens regularly, so I think it would be wise not to make a big deal out of it, because it's starting those things that lead to fights. If you don't bring it up, some people probably won't even notice.

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