posted 07-10-2006 08:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Yero the Hero:
This seems as good a topic to post this on.....

How the heck do you get pictures in your posts? I've been wasting time on Photobucket, and I would really like to know if anyone can help me. Thanks!

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posted 07-10-2006 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Yero the Hero:
Jesus, my spelling was bad in that post.

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Heh. No problem, I understood what you were saying. Here... try reading this....

Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat ltteres are at the rghit pcleas. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by ilstef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

posted 07-11-2006 02:38 AM               

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Originally posted by Plant a Note:

Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat ltteres are at the rghit pcleas. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by ilstef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

Hehe.

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AH!!!

posted 07-11-2006 02:40 AM               

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Originally posted by Yero the Hero:
Weel, ya, that's what I've been doing...I was just wondering how I can put the picture directly ito the post. Thanks, though, PaN!

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posted 07-17-2006 05:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Yero the Hero:
Actually, speaking of, I was thinking of bleaching my hair...do you think that would look good?

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I know this is about a zillion pages back by now, but don't do it. I have decided that I like your hair. Having seen it. Yes.

posted 07-18-2006 04:01 PM            

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Originally posted by SoulOverflowing:
I didn't know they had such a job as that.

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posted 07-19-2006 12:11 PM               

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Originally posted by OvertheMoonforIM:
it's not really dating as much as hanging out.

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posted 07-19-2006 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by The Scarecrow:
The girl last night was 12.
But I have chaperoned for girls and boys ranging from 9 to 14. Chaperoning the 14 year old was very strange for me, because thats my age. Haha. The parents told the girl I was 17, and she never once questioned it.

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Oh, that'd be awesome. I've always wanted to work at my dad's business. He owns a petstore. Right now, I just babysit.

posted 07-19-2006 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by OvertheMoonforIM:
I see your point MH, but I think that for kids that young, it's not really dating as much as hanging out. I mean, the kids think it's dating, but it's really not. Plus, they aren't nearly old enough to seriously date and understand what it is, anyway. I think it's fine because it's not a serious thing.

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OTM, I understand what you're saying. I'll use myself as an example. I started "dating" in sixth grade. That's right. Sixth Grade. Of course at the time I thought it was dating. But really, it was just me and my friends hanging out with a bunch of guys, and each girl paired up with a guy to hold hands, play footsies, maybe a peck here and there. But it was by no means dating. Just let them think they are getting away with it, but really, they're not doing any harm. They're kids, and they'll learn as they grow older that it was nothing important at the time.

Mistress Hibbins, I also understand where you're coming from, however, as I mentioned above, if the parents forbid them from any sort of dating practices, the kids will rebel and will become even worse than those parents who do let their kids hang out with member of the opposite sex.

Wow, this could go in so many different ways...

posted 07-19-2006 12:39 PM            

When I was a young girl, my best friend was a boy. We would do things together, without any other children, but we were always accompanied by parents and we never once thought that we were dating. We certainly weren't sheltered, but we were just kids. Dating was something for people much older than we.

"Dating," even if there is no actual intercourse involved, implies a sexually charged relationship. No matter how physically precocious he or she may be, no child is psycologically prepared for such a thing. Some adults can't even handle it.

The state of today's youth is troubling to me. Pre-pubescent girls walk around dressed like little whores. Little boys listen to sexually charged--and often devastatingly misogynistic--rap and hip-hop. Younger and younger children are "going out."

I am all for a free and open attitude toward sexuality. I think that's a very healthy thing--but only for adults. I am usually firmly on the left side of the so-called "culture wars," but the sexualization of young children is disturbing. It is the foundation for an immature, unhealthy attitude toward sex and intimate relationships. It will affect the way that the younger generation grows to view gender roles. Among our youth, with their mini-skirts and gangster-rap, we are seeing a comeback in the notion of "girlie-girls" and "macho-men" as the feminine and masculine ideals. I think that this may bode very ill for our culture's future.

Now, Scarecrow, I hope that I haven't made you feel uncomfortable. I know that you're just doing a job. I feel very strongly about these things, but it doesn't reflect at all on you.

posted 07-19-2006 01:11 PM            

The notion that "kids will just rebel more" shouldn't scare parents away from their responsibilities, and if their children actually would be so inclined, then those parents have already shirked their duties.

I am not yet a parent myself, but I have been a child. From the very start, my mother set boundaries and consistantly enforced them. She would never back down from disciplining myself and my siblings when we were young, so we were never inclined to cross her as we grew older.

At the same time, she was always very open about topics that other parents would shelter their children from. In high school, neither myself nor my siblings shared our peers' seeming obsession with "forbidden" things like intimacy, drinking, and drugs, because these things weren't mysterious to us as they were to other kids. They hadn't come to hold that particular, unhealthy allure to us.

Our household, like any, had its small problems, but when it comes to the way that we were raised, I think that we had an upbringing with the perfect blend of liberalism and old-fashioned tradition. On one hand, we were taught respect. As small children, when we were naughty, we were spanked. As older children, when we stepped out of line, we had our priveledges revoked. We were expected to be quiet, calm, and polite.

On the other hand, we were raised with a very liberal and open value-system. When we were old enough to undestand, my mother always explained exactly why she set the rules that she did. We weren't subjected to society's notions of traditional gender roles; my mother was more or less the head of the household. We were taught to respect our fellow creatures, and to tolerate and accept people different from ourselves. We didn't have any particular religion or lifestyle prescribed for us. We were told we could live as we pleased, provided that we didn't hurt anyone.

So, I feel that I've turned out to be fairly balanced. I will always try to be polite, but I will take a stand for what I feel is right. I will be respectful to those who have earned my respect, but I am also not afraid to challenge authority. I am socially liberal, but I feel that with freedom comes responsibility.

I know that this turned into a rant, and that I have been rambling, but the state of a society depends on the attitude of its members. Everything starts with upbringing. Who ever said that "the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world" was right. If our society is to be made up of mature, responsible people, then parents have to actually do their job. Raising children is not a task to be undertaken lightly.

posted 07-19-2006 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Mistress Hibbins:
The state of today's youth is troubling to me. Pre-pubescent girls walk around dressed like little whores. Little boys listen to sexually charged--and often devastatingly misogynistic--rap and hip-hop.

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posted 07-19-2006 01:35 PM               

Who's to say that every 11 year old isn't mature enough to 'date.' And that every 16 year old is? If parents set good examples and have good rules that will be followed (goes with good examples) then why can't kids go on 'dates'? It's part of learning. I agree 9 seems young, but hell my brother went on his first date in 3rd grade (him, his date, me, my mom, and my dad all went bowling.. some date.)

Mistress Hibbins, it isn't like hanging out with your best friend, because the two kids THINK it's a date. What is the harm in that, as long as they are supervised? It's very true that if you forbid something it increases the novelty. For some at least.

I think this kind of 'dating' could help younger people develop skills that will help them when they really start dating. If their parents teach them to respect the other person and have boundries and etc etc then it's a good thing.

posted 07-19-2006 01:47 PM               

Edited to add that I also am not meaning this as an attack on you, Scarecrow. I would do the same job if it was offered. But I would also worry about the parents and the state of the future.

posted 07-19-2006 02:09 PM            

My fundamental problem is with the fact that the kids "think it's a date." I don't believe that is a healthy mentality for young children to have. Nine-year-olds have no business seeking out potential mates, just as they have no business trying to mimic the ingestion of mind-altering substances.

But the problem comes back to adults and the messages that they send to their children. It is true that there is no way to draw a distinct line between immaturity and maturity. I completely agree with that. Plenty of full-grown, supposedly fully-formed adults cannot handle initmate relationships--or anything else--maturely.

Today's children are becoming too sexualized, too early. That is a problem. I don't presume to know precisely how to fix that problem--maybe it cannot be fixed--but I acknowlege it as a problem.

I do not want to turn this into an argument. I understand that some of you are very young yourselves (fourteen is very young, to me) and you do not see these things from the same place that I do.

There you have my thoughts on the matter. That is all.

posted 07-19-2006 02:16 PM            

Speaking of, um, sexuality, myself and a young...friend....

posted 07-19-2006 02:38 PM            

Of course, when I was a child, my mother did her job and explained to me that the tobacco companies tried to sell me that stuff in order to put it into my head to become a smoker. (or chewer--yuck!)

Speaking of smoking, these are some beautiful (tobacco) pipes: http://talbertpipes.pair.com/index.html

No, I do not and never will smoke, myself, but I accidentally stumbled onto those pipes and thought that they were rather lovely.

posted 07-19-2006 02:56 PM               

-one short day-that was in the hotel after i had just seen wicked in chicago

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-hair straightened-

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-favorite hat ever -
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-me and julia-

posted 07-19-2006 03:00 PM               

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Originally posted by Mistress Hibbins:
Hah, Twyzzler....

When I was a young girl, my best friend was a boy. We would do things together, without any other children, but we were always accompanied by parents and we never once thought that we were dating. We certainly weren't sheltered, but we were just kids. Dating was something for people much older than we.

"Dating," even if there is no actual intercourse involved, implies a sexually charged relationship. No matter how physically precocious he or she may be, no child is psycologically prepared for such a thing. Some adults can't even handle it.

The state of today's youth is troubling to me. Pre-pubescent girls walk around dressed like little whores. Little boys listen to sexually charged--and often devastatingly misogynistic--rap and hip-hop. Younger and younger children are "going out."

I am all for a free and open attitude toward sexuality. I think that's a very healthy thing--but only for adults. I am usually firmly on the left side of the so-called "culture wars," but the sexualization of young children is disturbing. It is the foundation for an immature, unhealthy attitude toward sex and intimate realtionships. It will affect the way that the younger generation grows to view gender roles. Among our youth, with their mini-skirts and gangster-rap, we are seeing a comeback in the notion of "girlie-girls" and "macho-men" as the feminine and masculine ideals. I think that this may bode very ill for our culture's future.

Now, Scarecrow, I hope that I haven't made you feel uncomfortable. I know that you're just doing a job. I feel very strongly about these things, but it doesn't reflect at all on you.

[This message has been edited by Mistress Hibbins (edited 07-19-2006).]

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