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Miss Galinda Member	posted 10-05-2005 02:11 AM did you konw that chris columbus was actually going to consider casting justin timberlake, beyonce, and christina agulera for the rent movie?!! lol IP: Logged
missnikkaphon Member	posted 10-05-2005 09:57 AM quote: Originally posted by Miss Galinda: did you konw that chris columbus was actually going to consider casting justin timberlake, beyonce, and christina agulera for the rent movie?!! lol Scary. I'm glad he didn't. Really glad. IP: Logged
PrincessBarbera Junior Member	posted 10-05-2005 01:22 PM Well, ok, first off: - WICKED the novel and WICKED the musical are two seperate entities, and creating a WICKED movie would involve Universal deciding, definitively, whether WICKED would be an adaptation of the musical, or an entirely seperate, dramatic adaptation of the book. Invariably, this involves seperate rights and copyrights for each entity, and would involve ensuring several collaborations (especially for the musical.) While the musical has been successful, and there is no doubt that a musical movie would be profitable, there are limitations to that, creatively speaking. I have heard both of these ideas (a dramatic movie, a musical movie) were bandied about at Universal, and a decision has not even been made as to which type of movie would be the best creative venture. - The musical JUST opened 2 years ago. RENT opened in 1996, and was a critical and monetary smash hit, not to mention its own cultural phenomenon. And they're just now making a movie. Nearly 10 years later. PHANTOM didn't get made till nearly 15 years after it opened. It's just unwise to make a movie so early into the run of a Broadway production. If something is still selling out consistently, the producers want to continue selling out consistently--not give audiences the chance to see the movie instead. I would say that an exception to this rule is THE PRODUCERS, which opened on Broadway in 1999; the movie will be released later this year. But then again, the movie is technically a REMAKE of the original PRODUCERS movie, with adaptations from the musical, which was released in the 70's. Also, THE PRODUCERS' attendance began to slack off considerably last year. - All original principal cast members from the broadway production are contractually bound to their parts for a movie adaptation, which means they would have to be bought out if Universal decided to re-cast. Basically, this means that if Universal decided tomorrow that they were greenlighting this project, they would first have to call Kristin Chenoweth, Joel Grey, and Idina Menzel and offer them their original parts. And if they did not plan casting either Chenoweth, Grey, or Menzel, they would have to go into negotiations with them to "buy out their rights to the parts" in order to re-cast them. And right now, with Chenoweth tied up in Hollywood and making a name for herself, and Menzel attempting to do the same (we'll see how ASK THE DUST and RENT do) Universal is pretty on the fence about all of it. It's all a waiting game. If RENT is a smash hit, I have no doubt that we'll see Menzel and Chenoweth approached for a movie, even if they're both 190 years old. Both women look young for their age. If it's within the next 5 years that they decide to go into production, both women could easily play their respective roles (it's amazing what camera magic can do.) And if you ask me, that's how it should be. IP: Logged
I Couldn't Be Happier Member	posted 10-05-2005 07:21 PM Wow, You said it. That was brillantly thought of. How did you come up with that? What if one of the actors didn't want the part, does the studio still have to buy out their rights? I think we may hear something 5-8 years from now. As far as the Producers are concerned, audiences started to die out once Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderwich were re-cast. Isn't it amazing that even with Idina and Kristen gone, the shows keep selling out. I think it's a testimate to the writers and the ability of each actor to make the part successfully their own. IP: Logged
PrincessBarbera Junior Member	posted 10-05-2005 10:00 PM Ha ha. Well, a lot of it isn't thought out on my part, necessarily; it's fact. All the stuff about the contracts is completely factual. And yes, no matter when the studio decides to make a movie, they have to buy out the actors' rights. The actors own a part of those characters, as was designated in their contracts. The rest is just common sense or things I heard... around. [This message has been edited by PrincessBarbera (edited 10-05-2005).] IP: Logged
Prince Fiyero Member	posted 10-06-2005 10:23 PM I bet you work for Universal or are involved with the show in some way... hmmmm [This message has been edited by Prince Fiyero (edited 10-06-2005).] IP: Logged
Can I Be Fiyero?! Junior Member	posted 10-07-2005 09:44 PM the characters have to be Elphie- Idina Glinda- if Kristen wont, then a fresh, new actress Wizard- Joel Morrible- Rue or Maggie Smith Fiyero- Norbert Nessa- Michelle Boq- Chris Fitzgerald IP: Logged
Can I Be Fiyero?! Junior Member	posted 10-09-2005 04:45 PM oo...this might be a long stretch. But what about Amy Lee from evanescence being elphaba? i love her, but i havent heard of any movies shes in. I did hear a rumor that tim burton is remaking a real-life version of a nightmare before christmas and amy lee is the female lead and johnny depp as jack. just a rumor? IP: Logged
Miss Galinda Member	posted 10-09-2005 09:22 PM about the nightmare before christmas thing--i highly hightly doubt it. if anything, maybe a sequel also.. do you think idina will be old for elphaba in like 2010, or whenever the movie comes out. kuz i mean she was in rent like8 years later or whatever, and is in teh movie, but she started rent years ago. she was recently in Wicked. If idina were in teh movie, dont you tihnk she might be old to play a girl in high school? IP: Logged
I Couldn't Be Happier Member	posted 10-09-2005 10:16 PM I wouldn't worry about that. Hollywood could make it work, if they want it to work. IP: Logged
Miss Galinda Member	posted 10-09-2005 11:52 PM good IP: Logged
jaebird254 Member	posted 10-11-2005 01:25 PM whatever [This message has been edited by jaebird254 (edited 11-14-2005).] IP: Logged
BubblyBlond92 Member	posted 10-11-2005 08:42 PM I really think drew would not be good i think it would look better if they kept the originals IP: Logged
BubblyBlond92 Member	posted 10-11-2005 08:47 PM I'm thinking Elphaba----Idina(if not too old) G(a)linda--Megan Hilty was pretty good when i saw her GUys u shouldn't pick hollywood actors. pick some broadway people. i mean i don't think they r gonaa let Hilary Duff play Glinda i mean CUM ON There gonna pick peeps who can sing and act. people who r not jaded IP: Logged
defy Member	posted 10-12-2005 07:21 PM well reese witherspoon apparently thinks shes the biggest wicked fan and she wants to make the movie...whatever IP: Logged
defy Member	posted 10-12-2005 07:28 PM ok i think bette midler would make a good morrible just a suggestion IP: Logged
Miss Galinda Member	posted 10-13-2005 02:39 AM for some reason, i dont think the movie would even be good with out the OBC. IP: Logged
missnikkaphon Member	posted 10-14-2005 03:44 AM quote: Originally posted by Miss Galinda: about the nightmare before christmas thing--i highly hightly doubt it. if anything, maybe a sequel also.. do you think idina will be old for elphaba in like 2010, or whenever the movie comes out. kuz i mean she was in rent like8 years later or whatever, and is in teh movie, but she started rent years ago. she was recently in Wicked. If idina were in teh movie, dont you tihnk she might be old to play a girl in high school? Movie magic. IP: Logged
xDramaQueen2008x Member	posted 10-14-2005 05:36 PM quote: Originally posted by elphielvr: ok my pics IF all of these ppl could sing....... altho it would b awesome to have idina and kristen and the others......... Elphaba - hmmmmmmm.... hard choice mayb hilary swank Glinda - cameron diaz the wizard - that gut thats in bewitched hes her father.... hes also in miss congeniality..... idnt kno his name Madame Morrible - not sure Fiyero - chad micheal murray Nessa - natalie portman Boq - probably leonardo dicaprio ....does Cameron diaz sing?? I really think they should go for talent rather than big names on this one...look at Rent and The Phantom...they were known names, but not big hollywood names...and i think all the actors should sing their own character's sining...personally i'd be happy with Idina and Kristin... IP: Logged
Miss Galinda Member	posted 10-14-2005 05:54 PM yea IP: Logged
elphieunlimited Member	posted 10-15-2005 11:01 AM I totally agree with bubbly and Miss Galinda. You can't make a Wicked movie without the orignal cast! It just wouldn't be the same without them!!!! If you make a Wicked movie without the originals it is like making the next Harry Potter without Dan, Rupert, and Emma. IP: Logged
brentlomas Junior Member	posted 10-23-2005 06:49 PM Everyone that is being suggested is WAY too old. It works for the stage, but not for film. I think I have a really good idea for Elphaba that some people might be surprised about.. What about Raven Simone? She can really sing and she is a great actress. Besides that, she's the right age. And unlike other teeny bopper stars, she has respect in the industry. And Reese Witherspoon would be a good Glinda has a pretty singing voice. If you have seen Vanity Fair, she sings a lot in it. IP: Logged
Miss Galinda Member	posted 10-23-2005 08:47 PM if idina can be maureen...she can be elphaba IP: Logged
Miss Galinda Member	posted 10-23-2005 08:47 PM if idina can be maureen...she can be elphaba IP: Logged
Miss Galinda Member	posted 10-23-2005 08:47 PM if idina can be maureen...she can be elphaba IP: Logged
Galindafied2 Junior Member	posted 10-23-2005 09:00 PM i was just wondering... does elijah wood sing? IP: Logged
Galindafied2 Junior Member	posted 10-23-2005 09:00 PM i was just wondering... does elijah wood sing? IP: Logged
Miss Galinda Member	posted 10-23-2005 11:21 PM sorry. triple post IP: Logged
vimfuego Member	posted 10-24-2005 02:22 PM Maureen isn't supposed to be 17, though, is she? IP: Logged
Saint Aelphaba Moderator	posted 10-24-2005 07:12 PM Okay here is my thought... like they made RENT with EVERYONE EXPECT 2 of the original cast, I feel THE same WAY about Wicked.. Idina or Ana for Elphaba. Kristin or Kate Reinders as Glinda. Kriss of Norbert as Fiyero Gene or Joel as the Wizard .. catch my drift? Maybe change around the character of Madame Morrible, or Nessa - MAYBE. But I am sticking to the orignal or Chicago cast for the Movie. IP: Logged
Malky Member	posted 10-24-2005 08:19 PM quote: Originally posted by Saint Aelphaba: Okay here is my thought... like they made RENT with EVERYONE EXPECT 2 of the original cast, I feel THE same WAY about Wicked.. Idina or Ana for Elphaba. Kristin or Kate Reinders as Glinda. Kriss of Norbert as Fiyero Gene or Joel as the Wizard .. catch my drift? Maybe change around the character of Madame Morrible, or Nessa - MAYBE. But I am sticking to the orignal or Chicago cast for the Movie. Chicago cast Rules!!! (Kris and Ana especially ) Oh, and whoever said Hilary Duff would be good as Galinda, if that happened, I would cry my eyes out. She can't sing, she can't act, and the only thing she does well is smiling and looking pretty. "It's always been my dream to sing!" Translation:I've never wanted to sing until I learned that I would make more money that way! KrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKrisKris! IP: Logged
I Couldn't Be Happier Member	posted 10-24-2005 11:42 PM Malky, I completely agree with you! Chicago cast does Rule! IP: Logged
snowcoolio Junior Member	posted 10-27-2005 04:08 AM from what i have read officialy in the trade papers, Demi Moore's fledgling production company was the first group to obtain the rights to Mr. Maguire's novel to create on film, and thatwas before the musical. Well, when nothing was accomplished by her company, Mr. Maguire opted out of the contract and went with the musical version, and thus a musical classic was born! BTW..Please don't bust my chops on the specific details of all of this, but That's as much as i know. I WILL say that just as the musical has taken on it's own version of Mr. Maguire's vision, i think that WHEN (not if) this is done for the big screen, It should take advantage of the rich detail of the original novel, and although i absolutely LOVE the misical, the movie would be extremely amazing if it was not done as a musical, and a more mature retelling of the novel was looked at. There are so many film worthy details in the novel that i feel it would be such a shame to try and run with them. don't you think Baz Luhrmann woul dhave a ball doing this? IP: Logged
Unlimited Member	posted 10-27-2005 03:07 PM quote: Originally posted by snowcoolio: don't you think Baz Luhrmann woul dhave a ball doing this? I would LOVE IT if Baz directed this! EXCELLENT suggestion! And of course Catherine Martin, who won Oscars for Costume and Art Direction on 'Moulin Rouge!' (also Baz's wife) would be elFABulous as well! IP: Logged
I Couldn't Be Happier Member	posted 10-27-2005 10:45 PM I still feel strongly that a movie version should be based on the musical adaptation. IP: Logged
BeautifulWickedness Junior Member	posted 10-29-2005 08:20 PM My thoughts on varying film versions for Wicked are as follows: Make the musical into a feature length film for theatrical release. Try to get Idina and Kristen for it. Maybe even do it as an animated project and that way they can contribute their voices no matter how much older they get in the meantime. The original novel should be done as a series on HBO or Showtime like they have done with things like Six Feet Under, Sex and the City, Queer as Folk etc. The average life of these types of series is 5 years. They could cover a lot of ground in 5 years, which would put it around 100 episodes. The first season could be Elphaba's life from her birth through when she goes to Shiz. Next they could do at least 2 seasons on what happens at Shiz followed by a few seasons on her life after Shiz and up to death by Dorothy. That would be the only way to truly tell the tale as Mr. Maguire did so wonderfully in his novel. just my opinion, that's all Oh, and this way they could eventually do Son of a Witch in the same format and then the final novel. Like they did with the Tales of the City books, sort of J IP: Logged
BroadwayFreak Junior Member	posted 10-30-2005 06:48 PM Here are some things to make clear: -THERE IS NO MOVIE OF EITHER THE BOOK OR THE MUSICAL! These rumors you have read are FALSE. Universal does own the rights to Wicked, because they are producing the musical. -If there was a movie, it would not be made for at least ten years. RENT opened nine years ago and is being released later this year, PHANTOM opened sixteen years before the movie came out and CHICAGO was around for almost twenty-five years before the movie was made. -Another key componet in the desicion of a movie is money. Wicked on Broadway is making $1 million a week. Add that up with the grosses of the touring company and Chicago, means that Wicked is making about $3 million a week. For a movie to be made will mean a serious drop in attendance, (and example is THE PRODUCERS which opened four years ago and was made into a movie being released later this year, because there was a serious drop in attendence after Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick left) which will not happen for a long time. Wicked is still making millions without Idina and Kirsten. -Speaking of Idina and Kirsten, by the time a movie will be considered, they will be to old for their parts. Idina is 34 and Kirsten is 37, in ten years they will be too old to play college-aged girls. Even some of the "big names" that many people are thinking about- Reese Witherspoon has been metioned a lot- will be too old. Whoever who would be cast is probably in their early to mid twenties now. IP: Logged
BroadwayFreak Junior Member	posted 10-30-2005 06:50 PM Universal has no plans to make Wicked a movie. If they did, they would publicly annouce it. IP: Logged
booklady Member	posted 10-31-2005 12:58 PM I hope that a movie is never made of either the book or the musical, but if one were to be made, I would prefer the musical. I would hate to see one of my favorite novels "Hollywoodized" & the political, religous & sexual tones replaced by a happy ended love story. While I loved the musical, it is very different from the original novel & the novel will always be a very special book to me. Some die-hard fans of the novel aren't real pleased with the musical's ending, but it is a musical & has to have the obligatory happy ending that the majority of musicals have to have. Of course, I am biased as I am not a fan of most of the current actors (& I use that term very loosely) out there today. In movie making today, miles & miles of footage are shot & the best sections are put together. The editors are the true geniuses in the world of movie-making. [This message has been edited by booklady (edited 10-31-2005).] IP: Logged
Unlimited Member	posted 10-31-2005 04:46 PM quote: Originally posted by BroadwayFreak: Here are some things to make clear: -THERE IS NO MOVIE OF EITHER THE BOOK OR THE MUSICAL! RENT opened nine years ago and is being released later this year ... -Speaking of Idina and Kirsten, by the time a movie will be considered, they will be to old for their parts. BroadwayFreak, you speak so authoritatively. Do you work for Universal? Or is your post merely speculation (you know, like my original post on the subject, included to foster chat, anticipation, and creativity)? How do you justify your assertion that Idina will be too old, in light of the fact she is recreating here Broadway ‘Rent’ role NINE YEARS LATER? With the aid of makeup and cinematography, any good actor could play any age (Have you ever seen Cicely Tyson in ‘The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman’? Her performance spans decades of this woman’s life – a must see!). IP: Logged

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