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luckystar_30 Junior Member |
posted 12-07-2006 03:12 PM
  
I definetly think she could. I've heard her sing in some of her older movies. It was just an idea. Aside from the singing, I just think that her and Idina have that similar sort of presance - if that makes any sense. IP: Logged |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
posted 12-08-2006 02:02 AM
Toby Maguire as Boq? Why didn't I see that post before? Can he sing? Even if I weren't a fan of Wicked I'd see it for him. IP: Logged |
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DefyingGravity4Life Member |
posted 12-08-2006 08:44 PM
I don't really see Uma Thurman as Elphaba... i've never heard her sing and after seeing her in action movies like Kill Bill... i just don't see her playing the part. [This message has been edited by DefyingGravity4Life (edited 12-08-2006).] IP: Logged |
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Yero the Hero Moderator |
posted 12-08-2006 09:21 PM
I am officially leaving the musical board. IP: Logged |
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Ivan Member |
posted 12-09-2006 12:18 PM
Yeah, plus Uma isn't pretty enough. Elphaba is supposed to be pretty, just green. After hearing a clip of Kerry Ellis sing Defying Gravity, I would say her for the part because her voice is amazing but there's the whole she's British thing which would just be weird for a movie. IP: Logged |
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DefyingGravity4Life Member |
posted 12-09-2006 03:28 PM
Agreed. Elphaba is really beautiful, but people just don't see that because she is green. That's a key thing in the musical/ (to be) movie. IP: Logged |
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operagirl Member |
posted 12-09-2006 03:32 PM
Wouldn't it be great if they could film the musical NOW, and release it in 10 years? Well, I guess financially that would be impossible. HOWEVER, we would have many of the Broadway cast members in the film. IP: Logged |
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MusicalTheatreObsessed Member |
posted 12-10-2006 12:18 PM
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DefyingGravity4Life Member |
posted 12-13-2006 05:14 PM
ok... this is probably just repeating what's been said. there was an article in a magazine in sunday's paper (im not sure which one, someone who knew i liked wicked found it). Someone asked if it was going to be made into a movie and this is what it said: There could be two movies, but not anytime soon. Universal, which produces the musical, also owns rights to adapt a musical for the screen. ABC owns the rights to adapt the book into a non-musical film. Author Gregory Maguire tells us, "The play continues to be thrilling enough, so I am willing to wait." so although we already know most of this stuff, just thought i should post to show that it is being questioned. so we also know that there is a big chance that both the book and the musical will be made into a movie. [This message has been edited by DefyingGravity4Life (edited 12-13-2006).] IP: Logged |
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booklady Member |
posted 12-13-2006 10:00 PM
Just what we need, ABC television turning a wonderful novel into a cheesy Movie of the Week. ABC doesn't even make quality television shows any longer, but then, no one does. IP: Logged |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
posted 12-14-2006 01:05 AM
ABC has rights? *gun to temple* I'd rather NOTHING be made than, as Booklady said, a "cheesy movie of the week." They're going to kill it. Thank goodness it won't be anytime soon. IP: Logged |
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Prince Fiyero Member |
posted 12-14-2006 01:33 AM
I agree. I would love to see a movie based on the book, but if ABC has the rights i don't want a movie to be made any more. IP: Logged |
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Blondie Junior Member |
posted 12-14-2006 04:57 PM
quote of EmeraldKnight79: Elphaba- Demi Moore G(a)linda- Hilary Duff Boq- Elijah Wood Fiyero- Norbort Leo Butz Nessa- Jennife Garner Morrible- ? Wizard- ? i know hilary duff is kinda cheezy but shes got that popular look and i think shed be good-atleast for the first act Oh my goodness! IP: Logged |
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future_wicked_star Junior Member |
posted 12-15-2006 12:05 PM
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Triggy Junior Member |
posted 12-23-2006 08:58 PM
If they did make a movie it would be a big budget and would require big names that could also sing. Here's my list (if you don't know them look them up): Director: Baz Luhrmann Elphaba: Anne Hathaway Glinda: Kristen Dunst/Reese Witherspoon Fiyero: Daniel Macpherson/Heath Ledger Boq: Zac Efron/Elijah Wood Madame Morrible: Nicole Kidman Nessarose: Anna Paquin/Keira Knightley The Wizard: Hugh Jackman/Robbin Williams/Johnny Depp IP: Logged |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
posted 12-24-2006 02:04 AM
NOT Anne Hathaway. She's got too much rep as a princess-type. (Princess Diaries, Ella Enchanted) Maybe as Nessa though... IP: Logged |
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Ivan Member |
posted 12-24-2006 10:15 PM
Well, you said that they would need to be able to sing if they were in the show, and Zac Effron sings very little of any of his songs in HSM. In fact, Drew Seeley sings more than the majority of his songs. Also, you can't cast an attractive person as the part of Boq. They don't have to be ugly either, but the reason that Galinda does not go after Boq is because he's not as attractive and suave as Fiyero. So, you would need someone not so attractive to play the part. IP: Logged |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
posted 12-29-2006 01:30 PM
I think Boq should have a cute, eager quality. You're right, he can't be "hott" but makeup artists can do almost anything. I think Boq needs to have something that makes the audience love him, but of course be somewhat geeky, but still cute. After all, it's not that he's ugly, he's just not the popular type that Galinda wants. I think Elisha Wood would probably be good at this, he can pull off the little cute look. Can he sing? I've never heard him sing. IP: Logged |
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i'm_not_that_girl Junior Member |
posted 12-29-2006 10:49 PM
well I think that if they were to make a movie out of Wicked, they should use as much of the original cast as they can. I'm just saying that out of what I've heard because I've only listened to the original cast. But I really enjoy listening to them and I think they're amazing. that's just what I think! IP: Logged |
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mystikwulfe Junior Member |
posted 12-30-2006 01:12 AM
im not sure if anyone mentioned this already but Sandra Bullock has the perfect features to play Elphie. From Miss Congeniality shed be good at acting shy n awkward yet strong too. i just dont know if she can sing. IP: Logged |
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OvertheMoonforIM Member |
posted 12-30-2006 11:01 AM
quote: I've only heard Anne sing in that horrible little excuse for a movie adaption of Ella Enchanted; if you're judging by that (I'm not saying she was bad), there's so, so much more you need to be able to play Elphaba, it's ridiculous. But then, if she's done something else that I've missed, point me in the right direction.
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Wicked = Life Member |
posted 12-30-2006 06:00 PM
okay aloow me to knock some sense into you guys: A) Look at rent, they didnt use big name stars (except rosario but you know, daphney couldnt make it in) and they still mad alot of money and with kristin chenoweth's recent movies, and idina menzel getting to be a bigger name, it wouldnt be impossible to have the original cast play the roles B) Hilary duff? uh, no, her voice is okay but its not broadway style, its pop, and slight rock (if u call it that...) C) and its quite clear they will not be making a wicked movie until its what 9 or tenth year on broadway, that is if the money making has slowed down and in Wicked's case that will probably not happen for a long long time, considering all the sold out shows and everything making a movie would just be an "emergency" plan if wicked was ever to slow down D) Either that...or if it makes so much money they make one, to make more... I dont know...opinions? [This message has been edited by Wicked = Life (edited 12-30-2006).] IP: Logged |
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booklady Member |
posted 12-30-2006 08:52 PM
1.Rent DID NOT make a lot of money in movie theaters & was released on DVD much earlier than most movies are. It made back production costs, but not a whole lot more. It was not a flop, but it was not a box office success either. 2. Kristin & Idina are both considered SUPPORTING actors, not LEAD actors when it comes to film. Winning a Tony award is a huge honor, but it means very little to movie studio executives who know that it takes big names to sell movie tickets. Idina & Kristin don't have those big names. Kristin actually has a better shot at leading lady roles than Idina does & has more name recognition. IF Idina were being offered leading roles in movies, I don't think she would have returned to the role of Elphaba in the London production. She has nothing to prove, she won the Tony & playing Elphaba again is not going to further her film career. 3. The consensus of MOST critics was that the OBC were too old by the time Rent was made into a movie & the same thing will happen with Wicked. Idina & Kristin will not be believable as college students in another 10 years & other than in a live production, are not THAT believable now. Live theatre audiences don't get as up close & personal as the camera does. 4. Movie musicals are NOT doing well. Rent was not the success the studio hoped for & The Producers (with OBC members) was an all-star all out flop. Nathan Lane & Mattew Broderick are much bigger stars than Idina & Kristin will ever be & they couldn't get people into the theaters. The movie musicals that have been successful were all made with MOVIE stars, not theater stars. Chicago is the biggest example & not only made a ton of money, but won Academy Awards. That is what movie studios look for. It is a lovely dream that the OBC will be in a movie version of Wicked, but not very realistic. [This message has been edited by booklady (edited 01-02-2007).] IP: Logged |
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I Couldn't Be Happier Member |
posted 12-30-2006 09:04 PM
I agree with Booklady, yet movie musicals are still being made. I think Dream Girls is doing quite well at the box office. All big names, for the most part. I am looking forward to Hairspray, but I'm a little scared as Travolta should not be in it. No Broadway cast in the Wicked movie, sadly. Yet a Wicked movie, definetly, just give it some time. IP: Logged |
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booklady Member |
posted 12-30-2006 09:12 PM
Dream Girls is doing very well & there is a lot of awards talk being buzzed about. I remember when Dream Girls was the BIG show on Broadway & I always wanted to see it.I think Hairspray may do well because a lot of people love John Travolta. He genuinely wanted to be in the movie & from the clips & interviews, it looks like he is having a wonderful time. That could translate to BIG box office. John Travolta is one of Hollywood's biggest comeback kids & people love that about him. IP: Logged |
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Wicked = Life Member |
posted 12-31-2006 01:10 AM
This is extremely random, but semi-relatable... You capitalized 11 words in your long speech thingy...congradulations for dominating my hopes booklady IP: Logged |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
posted 12-31-2006 01:24 AM
It's really sad how many times someone has to repeat the same facts over and over. There's this vicious cycle going on here. But I agree totally with what booklady said. It's true, the OBC will be much too old. I saw Rent the movie first, and the college-age thing went totally past me. Someone had to tell me that they were supposed to be young. If that's the youngest they could get Idina looking then, there's not really any hope at all. No offense to her, I love her, but it's true. IP: Logged |
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Wicked = Life Member |
posted 12-31-2006 01:47 AM
Really? I have seen Rent performed twice on stage (one in french one in English) and I didn't know they were college kids, they never really made it clear, in Wicked, yes, but I was just blabbing, I really dont know the latest Wicked news...I'll go study up  IP: Logged |
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Prince Fiyero Member |
posted 12-31-2006 04:57 AM
quote: LOL. Every time i see Sandra Bullock she reminds me of Idina. I agree, she does have perfect features for Elphie, but i really have no respect for her as an actress... I sure she can't sing either. IP: Logged |
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booklady Member |
posted 12-31-2006 10:44 AM
I am sorry if you feel that I ruined your dreams & fantasies, but facts are facts & you obviously didn't check yours. How rude was it of you to say that you were going to "knock some sense" into us? The next time you decide to "knock some sense" into people, get your facts right & people might take you a bit more seriously. If you really want to see a movie made of Wicked some day, you need to accept the reality of how a movie studio does business. IP: Logged |
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Wicked = Life Member |
posted 12-31-2006 12:59 PM
quote: Ok ok Im sorry, I apologize, I thought we all understood the concept of sarcasm here on the boards, what a nice welcome home. I'll admit that I don't have my facts straight, but I also have not been in this country in 2 months and I forgot a bunch about Wicked and Rent so I get mixed up, maybe I came back too soon. I was trying to end my last post on a happy note, I am sorry. Everyone used to be so sarcastic and funny, and I guess things change over time. Thanks for the good memories, last year and hopefully we will make more good ones in 2007, Happy New year to everyone! [This message has been edited by Wicked = Life (edited 12-31-2006).] IP: Logged |
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OvertheMoonforIM Member |
posted 12-31-2006 03:15 PM
quote: Saying you're going to "knock sense into us" is so far from sarcasm it's not even funny. That's just rude. And hypocritical, if you check the thread you yourself put in GD.
I don't think we've changed much in that respect. IP: Logged |
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Wicked = Life Member |
posted 12-31-2006 03:24 PM
this hypocritical, and rude person will just leave then I dont want to cause any more problems then I apparently already have. au revoir, Mari' IP: Logged |
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Icebrat9210 Junior Member |
posted 12-31-2006 03:41 PM
I'd go with the original cast on this, all the way. I saw earlier oon, some speculation about Kristin Chenoweth's age, I read in an article last year that she is 39, so she's probably 40 now. I really don't think that matters...she's an amazing actress and virtually at the height of her career...with make up, it doesn't matter how old you are. and I am also completely for Michelle Federer....She's absolutely amazing...I saw Wicked a second and third time just to see her in it...and have seen it a fourth since then with Jenna Leigh Green, no objections to her- I love Sabrina the Teenage Witch, but Michelle was amazing ORIGINAL CAST ALL THE WAY...if possible IP: Logged |
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Icebrat9210 Junior Member |
posted 12-31-2006 03:49 PM
oh and,yes I realize the popularity of Wicked in theater, as mentioned before, I've seen it four times, and if someone made a movie soon enough, i think the most popularity would come from the original broadway cast... think about it...all the rave reviews they got, and then you go make a movie with a bunch of totally different people....its like, broadway but its not...if these people could portray the amazing characters in a movie, then why haven't they been on broadway? IP: Logged |
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maggam Junior Member |
posted 01-02-2007 04:01 AM
Hey guys! This is my first time to this discussion board. Now, I do have a few opinions of my own about Wicked, the movie musical...alot of these issues derive from a larger opinion of mine on Movie musicals altogether, and I choose right now, not to get into the whole discussion about it. I do so boths sides of the issues..the positives and the negatives. This is what I think... I do think that it is possible for the entire OBC to play the leading roles in the movie if it were filmed relatively soon. Alot of things can be done to make people (especially women) look much younger... Maggie Smith would make an awesome Madam Morrible...and with increase in her name (already well known and popular from stage and screen before Harry Potter and Sister Act) from the Harry Potter films, she actually might get the part. RENT didn't do as well as Dreamworks thought it would because, when they made it, they made some nice changes and the general audience was goign to the movie theatre expecting to see RENT just as they saw it in the theatre. However, part of the magic and emotion from RENT stems from the fact that it is live. I do not get the same visceral feeling from the movie as I do the play, but it is still awesome. It is due to the simple impossibility to get that same visceral feeling from a t.v. screen that it was not as well received as hoped. Also, I think it didn't do as well because they waited so long to make the movie... Now, back to Wicked. I do not have any other people in mind for casting of the movie, because I feel so strongly that Chenowith and Menzel CAN and WILL play the parts wonderfully and beautiful. Someone mentioned above that Menzel could not be considered a leading lady in movies...I think that is on the verge of changing. Idina has a couple movies out and has a few other screen things in the works. Also, it is a strong possibility that Idina accepted the role to re-create Elphaba on West End as sort of a brush up for the part as it has been a couple of years for her. A friend told me that he had read that Idina left the show when she did to start specifically preparing for the role in the movie...of course that could just be rumor and wishful thinking. I think that with WICKED, if they make the movie NOW or within a year, I think it will do awesome...because of it's already wicked hugh (pardon the pun) following, but also becuase of it's strong connection to the wizard of oz and it's timeless themes. I think that WICKED, the movie will probably blow the box office out of the water...and that could be cheapened if Chenowith and Menzel are not in it. One concern I have though is that there are some people thatare just not dedicated to the theatre and once they see the movie they will not return to the theatre and see it there. So, in this respect, the movie may cheapen or hurt the box office...but that is the chance that the producers, the movie studio, the brand and franchise will have to take. Okay, I think I have said all I ahve to say about it at this moment...although I do have lots more to say in general... Any ideas??? IP: Logged |
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booklady Member |
posted 01-02-2007 10:14 AM
Unless casting were to begin now, no way could a Wicked movie musical be done within a year. I have a friend who works for a large casting company in LA & she tells me that there are no plans to film Wicked in the near future. The show is doing so well on Broadway, London, Chicago & the touring company, why risk a drop in ticket sales for the live production. In addition, many Hollywood executives see the core audience for Wicked as a bunch of teenaged girls & teenage girls are not the big buyers of movie tickets these days. It is also very common for movies of this type to made several years after the play ends. Wicked shows no sign of ending anytime soon. Also from my friend, Idina is not considered a leading lady in film & none of the projects she has coming out will change that. Kristen Chenowith has the name recognition, but all of her roles to date have been in supporting parts & not in hugely successful movies. In addition, she has been signed to be on Broadway in Mel Brook's musical of Young Frankenstein in the next year or so, she won't have time to do a movie of Wicked. A movie of Wicked is years in the future & the OBC will be too old, as will most of the people mentioned in this thread. There are new talents arriving on the scene all the time & not everyone thinks that Idina & Kristin are the best in the roles of Elphaba & Glinda, especially since neither of them has performed the role live in the US in recent years. Universal will take all of that into consideration BEFORE they even think about making a movie. [This message has been edited by booklady (edited 01-02-2007).] IP: Logged |
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OvertheMoonforIM Member |
posted 01-02-2007 11:14 AM
Welcome to the boards, maggam!
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maggam Junior Member |
posted 01-02-2007 01:24 PM
Well, if the holly wood execs were as smart as you say they are, they would know that teenage girls are NOT the driving force behind Wicked's success...It is the adults...the people your age and my age...I am 28 years old, and have always paid hard attention to what is going on in the theatre world...and it has been a long time (probably since the original chorus line) since there has been a musical so powerful, so well liked, but every age group that it has caused this kind of sensation all across the nation and now in the UK. I DON'T think that teenage girls did that. Now, there have been many well recieved musicals along the way...Les Miz, RENT, EVITA, and POTO just to name a few. But each one was geared towards a different age or audience group. WICKED is basically a musical for everyone, of every age, of every group, in every family. The teenage girl group has definitely helped the box office...but it is certainly not driving it.... If those "holly wood execs" knew what they were talking about, they would know that. [This message has been edited by maggam (edited 01-02-2007).] [This message has been edited by maggam (edited 01-02-2007).] IP: Logged |
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booklady Member |
posted 01-02-2007 01:44 PM
Teenage girls are a huge part of the success behind Wicked & Idina Menzel, there is no denying that fact. All anyone has to do is to look at who is outside the theatre door, who worships at the shrine of Idina, who fills every Wicked online site with "OMG, Idina is the best, OMG, Idina is my hero, etc" & things like that. I am sorry if people don't like the truth, but for the most part, it isn't adults who go to see Wicked time & time again, it is young girls & even the cast & crew of the musical have admitted to being surprised at how Wicked became a girl power play & how many young girls are obsessed by the characters. I discovered Wicked when I read the original novel 10 years ago & fell in love with Maguire's writing.I have never made it a secret that I don't want a movie to be made, but if one has to be made, it will be of the musical because the story has already been totally watered down & "Hollywoodized." It also won't be done until the theatres either close the productions or ticket sales drop off. Even without Idina & Kristen, the theatres are still selling out. How many of the movies you mentioned were filmed WHILE the play was enjoying success on Broadway & how many were filmed several years after the Broadway run ended? [This message has been edited by booklady (edited 01-02-2007).] IP: Logged |
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