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Ivan
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posted 10-28-2006 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really like your Defying Gravity, it's makes more sense. I would love Galinda to see Elphaba, because there will probably never be a sequel to Wicked and they don't meet, but there is just that brief moment where Glinda sees her, which makes sense because otherwise the last note of the Finale that Glinda sings makes no sense really, it's too happy I think.

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DefyingGravity4Life
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posted 10-28-2006 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DefyingGravity4Life   Click Here to Email DefyingGravity4Life     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ivan and dylanlbc:
I really like both of your views on where the scenes should take place. Obviously on stage you can't do as much with scenery as a movie. The places that you mentioned seem to fit where the songs would take place if there was a movie. As for the ending, I see it from each view. It would be nice for Glinda to see Elphaba and Fiyero flying off, but then again, not seeing them adds to the whole mystery of the story. If Glinda sees them and smiles, the movie would end on a happier note, whereas in the play it's kind of sad and you are wondering if they will ever see eachother again. I don't think I would mind seeing either of the endings in the movie.

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Polychrome II
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posted 10-28-2006 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polychrome II   Click Here to Email Polychrome II     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought everyone might be interested in hearing this.

Recently I had the honor of speaking with Dana Ivy. Well, actually, we emailed each other. For those who don't know the name, she played "Ms Millie", the white mayor's wife in The Color Purple who asked Oprah, "Your children are so clean; would you like to come work for me, be my maid?" She was also the snobby hotel clerk in Home Alone 2: Lost in New York.

Anyway, I suggested that she would be the perfect person to play Madame Morrible in Wicked, but she wrote back and said that she had actually been offered the part, but turned it down for personal reasons.

What a great loss for Wicked, but I respect her decision.


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OvertheMoonforIM
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posted 10-28-2006 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OvertheMoonforIM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Polychrome!

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dylanlbc
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posted 10-28-2006 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanlbc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DefyingGravity4Life:
Ivan and dylanlbc:
I really like both of your views on where the scenes should take place. Obviously on stage you can't do as much with scenery as a movie. The places that you mentioned seem to fit where the songs would take place if there was a movie. As for the ending, I see it from each view. It would be nice for Glinda to see Elphaba and Fiyero flying off, but then again, not seeing them adds to the whole mystery of the story. If Glinda sees them and smiles, the movie would end on a happier note, whereas in the play it's kind of sad and you are wondering if they will ever see eachother again. I don't think I would mind seeing either of the endings in the movie.


I like the fact that Glinda is truly sad at the end of the show. When I first saw it with Kristen chenoweth, in the begining everyone is celebrating the death of the witch, towards the end of No One Mourns The Wicked, Kriten had tears in her eyes and was sad for a moment, and then put on a happy face and contiuned on, I didnt quite get it until the end. I like that Glinda is sad at the end. BUt I totally see others points of view

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Ivan
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posted 10-28-2006 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think both views make sense. The time where Glinda sees Elphaba flying off, however, can be a mystery as well. For example, was it really Elphaba, or does Glinda just think she saw her fly off when it is actually a large bird. Either way, I just think that unless they make a sequel, which I wonder if they were unsure at the time of the opening on Broadway, but it seems clear now that they will not, it wraps the story up enough to put a case closed stamp on the movie, you know? But it's not totally revealing.

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posted 10-30-2006 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polychrome II   Click Here to Email Polychrome II     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by OvertheMoonforIM:
Hi Polychrome!

Hey hey!!

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Prince Fiyero
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posted 11-03-2006 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Prince Fiyero   Click Here to Email Prince Fiyero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys, I'm not sure i saw what i saw, but i was just watching The Dayliy 10 at E! Entertainmet TV, and they where talking about Reese Witherspoon's divorce form Ryan and in one of the videos behind her there was a WICKED Logo.... intriguing

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booklady
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posted 11-03-2006 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for booklady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I remember correctly, at one point Reese did an interview at Universal Studios. The billboard for Wicked is promoting the musical, not a movie.

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Ivan
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posted 11-03-2006 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys are just so reluctant about there ever being a Wicked movie. They have stated that there will be a movie and it would transfer well as a movie, why wouldn't there be one. All you guys on here do is bitch and bitch about how there will never be a movie, and I agree that soon, there will not be one, but in the future there will be because at the point that the Wicked sales start to drop, the producers will want to cash in with the movie before releasing the rights. So, though it may not be the reason Reese was sitting in front of the sign for Wicked, just get over it, there will, one day, be a movie. Musical or not, a movie, in it's shining glory, wonderful movie.

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OvertheMoonforIM
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posted 11-03-2006 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OvertheMoonforIM     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And all you're doing lately is bitch and bitch about us. Either stop complaining or leave if you're so sick of us.

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booklady
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posted 11-03-2006 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for booklady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never seen any link that absolutely states there will be a movie. If such a link exists, please share it. Even the link to the British website for Wicked says, "In all likelihood..." which does not absolutely state there will be a movie. In The Grimmerie, the producers talk about the difficulty of getting a good movie script & that is one of the main reasons it was made into a play instead. I think that the movie is wishful thinking on the part of fans & not much more. Movie studios tend to err on the side of the practical & at this point in time, practicality says no movie. If "Hairspray" doesn't do any better than "Rent" & "The Producers" did at the box office, that will push the likelihood of a movie even further away, especially as the play is still doing well in NY, Chcago, London, on tour & soon to be in LA. Why take chances on a movie when the theatrical productions are doing so well? I think Marc Platt, Stephen Schwartz & Universal are a bit smarter than that.

[This message has been edited by booklady (edited 11-03-2006).]

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dylanlbc
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posted 11-04-2006 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanlbc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by booklady:
I have never seen any link that absolutely states there will be a movie. If such a link exists, please share it. Even the link to the British website for Wicked says, "In all likelihood..." which does not absolutely state there will be a movie. In The Grimmerie, the producers talk about the difficulty of getting a good movie script & that is one of the main reasons it was made into a play instead. I think that the movie is wishful thinking on the part of fans & not much more. Movie studios tend to err on the side of the practical & at this point in time, practicality says no movie. If "Hairspray" doesn't do any better than "Rent" & "The Producers" did at the box office, that will push the likelihood of a movie even further away, especially as the play is still doing well in NY, Chcago, London, on tour & soon to be in LA. Why take chances on a movie when the theatrical productions are doing so well? I think Marc Platt, Stephen Schwartz & Universal are a bit smarter than that.

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I completely agree!

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dylanlbc
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posted 11-04-2006 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanlbc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by booklady:
I have never seen any link that absolutely states there will be a movie. If such a link exists, please share it. Even the link to the British website for Wicked says, "In all likelihood..." which does not absolutely state there will be a movie. In The Grimmerie, the producers talk about the difficulty of getting a good movie script & that is one of the main reasons it was made into a play instead. I think that the movie is wishful thinking on the part of fans & not much more. Movie studios tend to err on the side of the practical & at this point in time, practicality says no movie. If "Hairspray" doesn't do any better than "Rent" & "The Producers" did at the box office, that will push the likelihood of a movie even further away, especially as the play is still doing well in NY, Chcago, London, on tour & soon to be in LA. Why take chances on a movie when the theatrical productions are doing so well? I think Marc Platt, Stephen Schwartz & Universal are a bit smarter than that.

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I completely agree!

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dylanlbc
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posted 11-04-2006 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanlbc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by booklady:
I have never seen any link that absolutely states there will be a movie. If such a link exists, please share it. Even the link to the British website for Wicked says, "In all likelihood..." which does not absolutely state there will be a movie. In The Grimmerie, the producers talk about the difficulty of getting a good movie script & that is one of the main reasons it was made into a play instead. I think that the movie is wishful thinking on the part of fans & not much more. Movie studios tend to err on the side of the practical & at this point in time, practicality says no movie. If "Hairspray" doesn't do any better than "Rent" & "The Producers" did at the box office, that will push the likelihood of a movie even further away, especially as the play is still doing well in NY, Chcago, London, on tour & soon to be in LA. Why take chances on a movie when the theatrical productions are doing so well? I think Marc Platt, Stephen Schwartz & Universal are a bit smarter than that.

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I completely agree!

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dylanlbc
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posted 11-04-2006 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanlbc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

oops

[This message has been edited by dylanlbc (edited 11-04-2006).]

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Polychrome II
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posted 11-04-2006 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polychrome II   Click Here to Email Polychrome II     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hillary Duff should play Glinda. She's a great singer and actress in many Disney productions. I wonder if Disney would loan her to Universal for the role if they make a movie.

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Yero the Hero
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posted 11-04-2006 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aaaaagh....*slits wrists*

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Yero the Hero
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posted 11-04-2006 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dylanlbc:
I completely agree!

Wow...you really must agree with booklady, then?

I agree as well.

I agree as well.

I agree as well.

(Jesus, I feel like that damn Head-on commercial).

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Ivan
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posted 11-04-2006 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was in a really pissy mood that day, but I mean, this thread just gets to us all. I mean, I just don't understand why there wouldn't be one, even in the far future.

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posted 11-04-2006 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pink n' Popular     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Polychrome II:
Hillary Duff should play Glinda. She's a great singer and actress in many Disney productions. I wonder if Disney would loan her to Universal for the role if they make a movie.


no, o god no. don't get me wrong, she's alright and all, but she's a pre-teen idol, not glinda. think how insulting that is to kristin and all the amazing other women who have played glinda, to just shrug them off. no, Kristin should play Glinda if there is ever a movie.

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posted 11-04-2006 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanlbc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Polychrome II:
Hillary Duff should play Glinda. She's a great singer and actress in many Disney productions. I wonder if Disney would loan her to Universal for the role if they make a movie.

i just threw up in my mouth. what is going on here? have people completely lost their minds? i'm sorry, i have to be this blunt! But here we have 2 AMAZING actresses play these 2 AMAZING parts on stage, and you really think that Duff could even come close to Kristen or anyone else that has played the part. SSERIOUSLY?!!!! I'm sick to my stomach!

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Ivan
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posted 11-05-2006 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
After rethinking the proposal, in which I still am against, I do wonder how Hillary Duff would be at playing Glinda. We've only ever seen her as the cutesy singing pop idol, but have we ever tried to think of her playing Glinda? I guess her voice is the only thing that pushes me away from the idea, but I think she could do it if given the chance as well. Not right away, but maybe after studying the role for a bit. Like an understudy or standby. Then she won't be on permanently, but sometimes she would be. (This would only work on stage, obviously.)

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dylanlbc
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posted 11-05-2006 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanlbc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ivan:
After rethinking the proposal, in which I still am against, I do wonder how Hillary Duff would be at playing Glinda. We've only ever seen her as the cutesy singing pop idol, but have we ever tried to think of her playing Glinda? I guess her voice is the only thing that pushes me away from the idea, but I think she could do it if given the chance as well. Not right away, but maybe after studying the role for a bit. Like an understudy or standby. Then she won't be on permanently, but sometimes she would be. (This would only work on stage, obviously.)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Fight the Dark Side! The reason we've only seen her in those "cutesy singing pop idol" roles is because THATS ALL SHE CAN DO! She can't act, she really CAN NOT SING! Why dont we just put Lindesy Lohan in Elphaba then and maybe J-Lo can be Morrible, and Justin T. can be fiyero, and how about Taylor Hicks as the Wizard! Ugh!!! Ashley Simpson as Roxie and Usher as Flynn....God help us all!!!!

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I Couldn't Be Happier
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posted 11-05-2006 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I Couldn't Be Happier     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On one of these pages I did state that in the Chicago Tribune when Marc Plat announced the LA Wicked sit down show. He said the movie is the next step, but they aren't in any hurry. So will there be one? Most likely. When? Hopefully in my lifetime.

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Ivan
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posted 11-05-2006 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ha ha, okay, I'm fighting the dark side.

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Nessarose Throppe
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posted 11-09-2006 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nessarose Throppe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, I haven't been on in a while (I forgot my password) but it's fun to see I've been promoted to "member..."

ANYWAY. I read through the last five pages to catch up, so I really hope I don't repeat anything here.

PLEASE let's not let Hillary Duff play in the movie. She's what I call an "actress in a can" meaning she and other actresses like Lindsey Lohan (sp?) could be interchanged in a movie and no one would know, because their acting style is exactly the same - and all they can play, as was said before, are characters that are teen girls with lame issues. She could never pull off anything else.

I'm not so sure about Anne Hathaway as Elphie - in fact, I personally hate the idea. I mean, she plays princesses. Her face is permanently engraved in the American mind as Mia, Ella, etc., and I just can't see her pulling off the part of Elphie. I wonder... could Emmy Rossum do it?

I think Patrick Wilson could totally do something like Fiyero. I've said that before though.

Nessarose? That's easy. I'll do it. I've done it before. With a good vocal coach maybe I can get up to Hollywood standards...

I have a ton more I'd like to say but no one likes really really long posts.... except for I liked the ones that briefly listed some storyboard ideas. I think that's awesome that you've put the thought into it. Kudos.

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Nessarose Throppe
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posted 11-09-2006 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nessarose Throppe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, I think this is the right link to the script, if you just want to read it for fun.
http://musicphr34k.tripod.com/wicked

I don't know how to do clickable links. That's what good old copy/paste is for.

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Ivan
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posted 11-09-2006 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nessarose, when you say that you've done it before, what exactly do you mean?

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Nessarose Throppe
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posted 11-09-2006 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nessarose Throppe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, not the whole part or anything. *blush* I just sang her part in DTL in a show we did, a mix of broadway songs. I love her character though, and I found a recording someone made of WWOTE and I absolutely love it. Since I can't afford a vocal coach, I'm training myself based on what people who have been trained tell me, and I work especially hard on those two songs. I just absolutely love her character.

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posted 11-09-2006 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nessarose Throppe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I meant that jokingly when I said I'd play her.... I hardly think I could pull off the singing the way it deserves to be done.

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posted 11-09-2006 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanlbc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ivan:
She looks in the sky, and at that moment sees a black and green creature flying across the sky, or rather a couple. She smiles, turns to the crowd, and belts the very last "WICKED!!!"

Fade to credits.

Thoughts or input?

sorry but something just came to me....she can't fly away on her broom, Dorothy took it to the Wizard after she melted her.


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Ivan
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posted 11-10-2006 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ivan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh yes, you're right... But then again, Glinda's dress upon meeting Dorothy is supposed to be pink, and they made it blue...

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posted 11-10-2006 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nessarose Throppe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True, but in the movie, they can easily put the dress back to pink if they want.

The play doesn't actually follow the Wizard of Oz perfectly in a lot of ways, though. When people ask me about that I just say the Wizard of Oz is Morrible's version of what happened, or at least the version that got told to people, so if there are little differences, they're explained away that way. Thoughts?

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Ivan
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That does seem most logical, considering that it matches Morrible more than Glinda or the Wizard's version that they would have to tell.

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posted 11-11-2006 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanlbc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ivan:
That does seem most logical, considering that it matches Morrible more than Glinda or the Wizard's version that they would have to tell.

i agree, i think that the Wizard of Oz, is like the story that got passsed down ove rthe years, but it's an inacurate history of what truly happened

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Originally posted by dylanlbc:
i agree, i think that the Wizard of Oz, is like the story that got passsed down ove rthe years, but it's an inacurate history of what truly happened

Exactly what I'm saying. I think that's the best way to explain away the inaccuracies. Of course, there will always be people (like my neighbor) who like the original best and don't like that we're "changing" the story but I really don't care. Besides, in this day and age, people love twists on classic stories like the Wizard of Oz.

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posted 11-13-2006 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Knocknasheigah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My dream cast:
(I have chosen these actors without taking in consideration whether or not they can sing, as I feel that the book would make a better movie than the musical. Don't get me wrong, I love the musical, but the book has much more depth)

Elphaba: This might sound weird...but...Angelina Jolie.
Fiyero: Hugh Jackman
Glinda: Kiera Knightley, Brittany Murphy
The Wizard: Anthony Hopkins, Dustin Hoffman, Johnny Depp, Goeffrey Rush
Boq: Joaquin Phoenix, Adrian Brody
Madame Morrible: Kathy Bates, Fionnula Flanagan
Nessarose: Kirsten Dunst, Natalie Portman

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quote:
Originally posted by Nessarose Throppe:
Exactly what I'm saying. I think that's the best way to explain away the inaccuracies. Of course, there will always be people (like my neighbor) who like the original best and don't like that we're "changing" the story but I really don't care. Besides, in this day and age, people love twists on classic stories like the Wizard of Oz.

That's really the impression you get from the book-- like Maguire Oz are the true events, and "The Wizard of Oz," is the story passed down into myth.

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posted 11-14-2006 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do not let Hilarry Duff play Galinda

Remember guys...Galinda has to be a COLLEGE STUDENT. Hilarry still looks like a teenager.

Plus, Galinda has to be played by someone who can pull off the college blonde (Sigh...Kristin) AND the more mature, full-of-presence Glinda the Good Witch who's got the voice you need, the charisma to attract the audience and engage them, and the underlying depth of a wiser young woman.

Hillary just doesn't have that experience for a character with depth. Plus, I think the actress to play the characters have to be at least in their mid twenties to be considered for the roles.

I'd love to see Kristin.

Maybe they'll do what they did for RENT...which was, pretty much get the entire main cast (excluding one or two who couldn't play the roles anymore for other reasons)

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