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Green Girl
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posted 07-08-2006 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green Girl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How fun is it to say Wickidians and Wickedens! It’s almost impossible to say them slowly. I’m loving them both sick!

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Yero the Hero
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I liked the Devil wears Prada....a bit too "chick lit"-ey, but, it was an alright read for the summer.
I agree that the pace of Memoirs was very fast. I mean, if I didn't read the book I would have no idea why their father sold them to Tanaka-san or what they were being sold for. It was very fast.

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Elphaba Potter
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posted 07-09-2006 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elphaba Potter   Click Here to Email Elphaba Potter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Green Girl:
How fun is it to say Wickidians and Wickedens! It’s almost impossible to say them slowly. I’m loving them both sick!

Haha! I know! Isn't that funny how those words don't sound right when you say them slowly? You have to say them fast.

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I Couldn't Be Happier
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posted 07-09-2006 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I Couldn't Be Happier     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How many different topics are going on iside this post?

Back to topic. They actor who played Christian in the Devil Wears Prada would make a great Fiyero for a potential movie version of Wicked. I don't know if he can sing, but boy he had the looks down pat. (My opinion anyway.)

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Yero the Hero
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posted 07-09-2006 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, he could be a good Fiyero...But I'm sticking with either Matt Damon or Taye Diggs.

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Elphaba Potter
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posted 07-09-2006 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elphaba Potter   Click Here to Email Elphaba Potter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would really like to see a dark-skinned person play fiyero. Maybe someone with some middle-eastern in their descent. Cas Anvar might be an interesting choice. I don't know if he can sing though. Amr Diab might be an interesting choice as well, and he can sing. Now, I don't think that a middle eastern actor will be cast, nor am I championing an actor of middle eastern descent. I think it would just be a cool option.

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posted 07-09-2006 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ProductionChair     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wicked the Musical is the only musical to be backed and produced quietly by a major motion film company. Universal Studios is the main producer of Wicked on stage. There is already plans for Wicked the movie, said to start shooting by the end of 2006. For all those who have listed these "hot" film actors, I do not think that Matt Damon could ever pull off fierro and I do not think Natalie Portman should even be called for the roll of Elphie. It was stated early in this post that mainstream actors arent what hollywood wants right now, just look at rent. As a matter of fact, The Producers was appauling because of one horrid mistake. Uma Therman. Cady Huffman is far more amazing than that poison ivy, yellow jump suit wearing "pretty face". With the amazing responce that Wicked the Musical has recieved with the original cast, I strongly believe that they will be using most of the original cast. Now that I have said that, I really do not think I even want to see the movie. I mean, How are they gonna butcher Defying Gravity in the Film? Have her on a broom stick? There wont be the same dinamics of wicked in the film that there are on stage. So dont get too excited. Rent the musical was hard to sit through as a theatre person who has grown up singing the tango maureen since i was 9. All these little teenagers now think they know rent bc they saw the movie 4 times. You cannot capture the essence of a show unless you film the darn thing, and even then it loses its dynamic. Haispray the musical is said to be coming to theatres winter 2007. The lead from highschool musical playing Link is gonna ruin the beauty of the stage show for all us theatre people. The only shows that the silver screen did justice were Phantom of the Opera and The Producers. Oh! Thats another point about broadway stars. Yes, Broderick and Lane are famous, but even more so are Jason Alexander and Martin Short (of the LA Cast) If Mainstream actors sell more tickets, why didnt they have them play those parts...

Ne ways... I dont see Wicked being any good on Film, Im sorry... The stage Production is too magical of an experience.

Also, if anyone is wondering, the LA cast will be coming soon... Thats right, It was such a hit a the San Diego Civic and at the OCPAC that they will be bringing a cast to LA like the producers did, which means a longer run than a tour

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Yero the Hero
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posted 07-09-2006 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are sooo many errors in your post I don't know where to begin. If the movie was to start shooting at the end of this year, there would already be word-of-mouth spreading. RENT was a good movie, and just b/c they used the OBC doesn't make it en vogue.

And "defying Gravity" wouldn't be butchered. There is just so much I want yell at you right now, but my thoughts are unorganized and it wouldn't help my defense if I started.

And, learn to spell. I doubt someone who puts two "i"s in dynamics could know so much.

And, UMA THURMAN (where d'you learn to spell?) is a fabulous actress who would be good in almost any part.

And, the move RENT was quite different from the stage production, as Wicked would be. That's not terrible, and it doesn't ruin the show. Some things (like white clothing and stage dynamics) don't translate well on film.

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Elphaba Potter
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posted 07-09-2006 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elphaba Potter   Click Here to Email Elphaba Potter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh My Oz.

I felt like my heart was shrinking as I read that idiotic post.

Don't take me wrong, I value your opinions and even agree with a couple of them. I'm calling your post idiotic because you are making some interesting, valid points (even if I think that some of them may be naive and/or uninformed) but your spelling and grammar are atrocious.

If you want people to listen to your ideas/takes/opinions then make sure you don't distract them with your lack of basic English.

"Ne ways..." you need to read the rules of this forum, i.e. no chatspeak.

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booklady
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posted 07-09-2006 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for booklady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Universal announces the movie, that is when I will believe there is going to be a movie. Until there is an official announcement, all of this is rumor.Because Rent (with most of the original cast)& The Producers (with a big name cast) did not do well at the box office, Universal will think long & hard about making a movie of Wicked & I don't see it happening any time soon. It took a long time for Rent to be made into a movie & Phantom has been made & remade in one form or another for nearly 100 years, beginning with the Lon Chaney silent version. Most of the original cast of Wicked have other committments right now. Idina is going to be in the London cast & Kristin Chenowith has several projects she is working on. The last movie musical that had good box office, good reviews & won awards was Chicago & none of the original cast was in the movie version. Wicked, the movie is a long, long ways away.

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Twyzzlyr
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posted 07-09-2006 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twyzzlyr   Click Here to Email Twyzzlyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm with booklady on this one. It's all well and nice to post like you have a clue, but I'm a cynical bitch and I'll believe it when I see it.

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Elphaba Potter
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posted 07-09-2006 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elphaba Potter   Click Here to Email Elphaba Potter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Twyzzlyr:
I'm with booklady on this one. It's all well and nice to post like you have a clue, but I'm a cynical bitch and I'll believe it when I see it.

I second that.

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Yero the Hero
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posted 07-09-2006 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yero the Hero   Click Here to Email Yero the Hero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Third it.

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*chanGed-for-tHe-betTer*
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posted 07-09-2006 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for *chanGed-for-tHe-betTer*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow. That is almost the worst post every written on this board. Yero and booklady is right. If a movie was going to be filmed at the end of these year word would be spreading to us already, and like others I will not believe a movie is coming out until the offical word from the studio. I want to say more but that would just be repeating yero and booklady.

Next time you feel like posting please have good and proven facts and evidence behind you.

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Nessarose Throppe
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posted 07-09-2006 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nessarose Throppe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only thing I have heard myself is from Universal employees, but I agree that a Wicked movie is a long way off. I know this was said a long time ago, but Hollywood often waits a while on things like this to drag out the popularity of it.

Speaking of which, it's no wonder the third Pirates is already going to be out next year... no one is going to wait too long for the next one after the sequel was a "Pirates-meets-Star Wars" spoof on the original. I was really disappointed in it. They couldn't even come up with new humor, they tried to borrow all their laugh lines from the original.

Sorry. I know that's way off topic but it was really bothering me.

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booklady
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posted 07-09-2006 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for booklady     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are going to see Pirates next weekend. A lot of my friends saw it this weekend & loved it. They said it is another goofy ride & had a blast. When the first Pirates came out, I saw it with my sister & niece. Apparently, the majority of the audience took it way too seriously. We were laughing our heads off & people kept looking at us like we were nuts. I am thinking, this is a movie based on a cheesy ride at Disneyland & Disney World, how could anyone not think that is funny? Every now & then, I want a goofy movie that really doesn't try to educate or illuminate, Pirates fits the bill admirably, at least for me.

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Green Girl
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I loved the second Pirates; I’ve already seen it twice. I know what you mean by just wanting to go to the movies for a laugh, I’m over being preached at even RV was rank with family bonding. Although I have to say cracked up all the way through that one too.

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Yero the Hero
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Originally posted by booklady:
We are going to see Pirates next weekend. A lot of my friends saw it this weekend & loved it. They said it is another goofy ride & had a blast. When the first Pirates came out, I saw it with my sister & niece. Apparently, the majority of the audience took it way too seriously. We were laughing our heads off & people kept looking at us like we were nuts. I am thinking, this is a movie based on a cheesy ride at Disneyland & Disney World, how could anyone not think that is funny? Every now & then, I want a goofy movie that really doesn't try to educate or illuminate, Pirates fits the bill admirably, at least for me.

Ah, I wish I could live in your world, Booklady. Unfortunately I have to see a *film* not a *movie* when I go to the theater. I wish I could just watch a stupid comedy, but I would blow my brains out. I had to sit through "ROad Trip" with my friends and I almost committed genocide. But Anthony Rapp's adorble face and floppy blonde hair saved me .

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Nessarose Throppe
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I guess I'm just picky, or something.... but I've never been fond of sequels for the most part. Movies that were based on a pre-existing story or that were made to be a trilogy (Star Wars, LOTR, Spiderman) work out so much better in my eyes. Toy Story had an amazing sequel though.

I just thought that they tried too hard with using old humor instead of coming up with something new.

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everafter
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posted 07-11-2006 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for everafter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that glen close would make an excellent Mada'm morrible

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Twyzzlyr
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posted 07-11-2006 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twyzzlyr   Click Here to Email Twyzzlyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anjelica Huston would make a fabulous Morrible also.

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I dont know if someone allready said this but in the plain Dealer ( a newspaper for cleaveland, Ohio) it said universal was making a movie based on the musical, and ABC was seriously thinking about doing a television series wich would fallow the book more closely

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Elphaba Potter
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posted 07-11-2006 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elphaba Potter   Click Here to Email Elphaba Potter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by everafter:
I dont know if someone allready said this but in the plain Dealer ( a newspaper for cleaveland, Ohio) it said universal was making a movie based on the musical, and ABC was seriously thinking about doing a television series wich would fallow the book more closely

A television series...hmm...

I haven't thought about that one yet, but the thought intrigues me. Maybe if SciFi did it. They are usually insanely loyal to adaptations and such, even if their movies are incredibly cheesy sometimes with poor special effects. My only fear is that it would get picked up by Lifetime or Oxygen or some equally lame channel (I hope I didn't offend any lifetime or oxygen fans, but frankly dear, I don't give a damn).

I am slightly more put off at the thought of a television series than I am of a motion picture.

Then again, if it's done well...

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I Couldn't Be Happier
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Originally posted by Yero the Hero:
Ah, I wish I could live in your world, Booklady. Unfortunately I have to see a *film* not a *movie* when I go to the theater. I wish I could just watch a stupid comedy, but I would blow my brains out. I had to sit through "ROad Trip" with my friends and I almost committed genocide. But Anthony Rapp's adorble face and floppy blonde hair saved me .

I saw Road Trip.Once I think I was a bit drunk. Anthony Rap was in it? Which part did he play?

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Nessarose Throppe
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Originally posted by everafter:
I think that glen close would make an excellent Mada'm morrible

I agree. But does she sing?

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I Couldn't Be Happier
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I agree. But does she sing?

Yes. She played Norma Desmond in Andrew Loyd Webber's Sunset Boulevard.

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On some news program or talk show or something I saw, Oprah claimed she goes to see wicked like more than once a week because shes in love with it. Therefore, I won't beleive there is a movie, until Oprah tells me so!

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Yes. She played Norma Desmond in Andrew Loyd Webber's Sunset Boulevard.

I'll have to see it.... is it good? I love Andrew Lloyd Webber!

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Meryl Streep could do Morrible too. The book one, I mean.

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I Couldn't Be Happier
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Originally posted by MusicalTheatreObsessed:
On some news program or talk show or something I saw, Oprah claimed she goes to see wicked like more than once a week because shes in love with it. Therefore, I won't beleive there is a movie, until Oprah tells me so!

You're joking right? This nation is too Oprah crazy. The woman has made a huge name for hersel, and that's great. However she is not the end all be all.

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Originally posted by I Couldn't Be Happier:
I saw Road Trip.Once I think I was a bit drunk. Anthony Rap was in it? Which part did he play?

Oh My God, he played the TA who was a real jerk right? It was just on the other day and I saw him in a few bits and pieces.

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Originally posted by Nessarose Throppe:
I'll have to see it.... is it good? I love Andrew Lloyd Webber!

It's excellent. It isn't on Broadway anymore, but she's on the soundtrack. It was based of Billy Wilder's movie, Sunset Boulvard. Also a must see.

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Face it, if a major studio had merely greenlit (ha) a project as ambitious as Wicked: The Musical in Surround Sound-Sensoround-3-D Elphaba-vision, then we'd already be seeing trailers. Wicked is just hitting the West End in the fFall and they would not rush a film out until they have paved a path of exposure via an international tour. Remember, foreign BO is just as important as Domestic BO.
I cannot recall a film version of a play that improved on it's source material. Angels in America and RENT were both huge dissapointments.

I've seen Wicked twice on B'way. While parts were very good, spellbinding even, other parts were crapola. The dance numbers?? Puleeeeese......

Most of my friends who were huge fans of the book were in shock when they saw the frothy confection Wicked became. A film version, well done, could return some of the darkness to the story and rework some of the weaker numbers and completely overhaul the dance sequences. That scene where elphie does her almost a vogue-alone? It brought the show to a stop....in a bad way. I definitely can see a film version trimming the fat, waking up the dead spots, and injceting some of the pacing that made the original Wizard of Oz so great. I would even shoot Wicked with the same film style as Oz, so it is almost like a sequel. There are so many possible ways to improve on what is already so good, but Hollywood tends to be timid (don't start me up again about Brokeback's loss).

Casting-wise, Glenn Close as Morrible? I saw her in Sunset Blvd., and yes she can sing...some. Not a great powerhouse. However, I just saw "A Prarie Home Companion" and Steep has quite the voice!!!! Let's not forget Bernadette. She's been away from film too long and her voice is still....like buttah.

Poor Edina and Kristen will be too old to play Elphie and Glinda, although they will be perfect to play Alma and Lurleen in Brokeback: The Musical, in previews next spring.

The Maguire verson of Wicked was too dark, meandering, unfocused and ambiguous. The musical too one dimensional, bright and Broadway. Perhaps a film version WILL be the perfect storm of sources, technology, casting, and script that truly captures the best of all worlds, Oz, Broadway, and Hollywod. Still, Wicked could have used some sheep herding cowboys......

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Originally posted by Sock:
Poor Edina and Kristen will be too old to play Elphie and Glinda...

It's -I- dina.

I agree with a lot of what you said. However, it doesn't help your credibility if you can't even spell her name correctly.

I'm not trying to be a bitch but I'm just making a point because I agreed with a lot of yours.

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Originally posted by Sock:
if a major studio had merely greenlit (ha) a project as ambitious as Wicked: The Musical in Surround Sound-Sensoround-3-D Elphaba-vision, then we'd already be seeing trailers.

I'm not sure, but I don't think anyone in this thread has said that the project has been "greenlit." I think that the only thing that we are sure of at this point is that Universal has bought the rights. Plenty of studios have 'rights' that sit on the shelf for 5 years.

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Originally posted by Sock:
...foreign BO is just as important as Domestic BO.

Completely agree. (for those who are trying to figure it out, BO = box office.)

In fact, it is sometimes the case where the foreign BO is where the studios earn the money. Take Lord of the Rings for example.

For all three movies, the US BOX was $1,059,649,279
But the worldwide BOX was $2,948,001,970.

It's almost three times as much (actually 2.78 times).

Great website: www.the-numbers.com

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Originally posted by Sock:
I cannot recall a film version of a play that improved on it's source material. Angels in America and RENT were both huge dissapointments.

Here, I completely DISagree with you. Nothing can compare to the original version of something. But I do think that staying true to the spirit and content manner in a respectable way can make for pretty damn good re-interpretations.

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While parts were very good, spellbinding even, other parts were crapola. The dance numbers?? Puleeeeese......

Oy vey on the dance numbers. They were too long and very mundane. Humpty Dumptys?

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Originally posted by Sock:
A film version, well done, could return some of the darkness to the story and rework some of the weaker numbers and completely overhaul the dance sequences.

yes.

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Originally posted by Sock:
I would even shoot Wicked with the same film style as Oz, so it is almost like a sequel. ...(don't start me up again about Brokeback's loss).

I don't agree with shooting in the same style as Wizard of Oz or making it a sequel. I want something new. Hollywood is already busy enough in the process of poorly re-making/hacking good films and making poor sequels/prequels.

By the way, this would be a prequel, not a sequel.

I would hope that they wouldn't market this as a prequel. I understand that it is technically a prequel, I just think that it is a strong enough story to stand by itself without needing to stand on WoOz's shoulders.

Brokeback's loss was stupid and unfortunate. What a beautiful movie.

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Originally posted by Sock:
Let's not forget Bernadette. She's been away from film too long and her voice is still....like buttah.

That made me laugh.

Also, I'm sorry for replying in so many posts. I just didn't want it to become one giant post. I find that this is easier to read.

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I liked it broken up like that, made it easier to follow.

I agree, the movie will be able to bring some darkness back from the book, but it needs to be a good mix.... too political and dark and you'll lose a lot of audiences. (I can't speak for anyone else, but I think Americans are getting dumber.) But to make a movie Hollywood will gear it towards the largest audience they can.

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