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ElphabaOfOz Member |
quote: Need some alcohol for that, Twyz? IP: Logged |
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Twyzzlyr Member |
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ElphabaOfOz Member |
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Twyzzlyr Member |
Blast! My secret is out! IP: Logged |
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MusicalTheatreObsessed Member |
quote: I feel as though your community theatre group could not have done Wicked... First of all the rights go for like fifty grand, and second the stage itself was like 14 million... So if you did somehow do it, you would have been stealing (this is illegal), also your theatre group could not have done Wicked justice being that the Orchestra's music is written for extremely talented professionals and some of the music in the show is insanely difficult vocally... Or maybeI'm just slow... Can't ruleout the possibility that I'm slow! IP: Logged |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
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Green Girl Member |
quote: Wow, you are seriously uptight, dude unclench!! IP: Logged |
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Galinda Upland Junior Member |
First of all, I said we did a "version" of Wicked. I never said we did the whole show. We cut pieces from it & performed mostly musical numbers only. It was more like a recital sort of thing with some acting in between. We didn't exactly have the rights, but my director called around & found out that we were allowed to do the show as long as it wasn't the complete, word-for-word script. And of course we wouldn't have the Wicked set. We made our own set that looked pretty decent for not being the real thing. And it only cost us about $20,000 which we raised most of the money through fundraisers & the rest we used from our "theater account". Obviously, it wasn't like the real show at all, but we still pulled it off & our audiences loved it. It only ran for 2 weeks, but it went great. I'm sorry for the confusion. IP: Logged |
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Galinda Upland Junior Member |
I forgot something. We also found an easier version of the Wicked orchestra music so we were able to collaborate with selected college band students who worked with us on making all the background music. As for the songs, they were a little tough to learn for the ensemble with all the harmonies & key changes, but for the main characters, it was really easy. IP: Logged |
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MusicalTheatreObsessed Member |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
I think one rule also is that for a musical revue you can do up to three songs from one show. That's what we did, and it was all legal. IP: Logged |
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Galinda Upland Junior Member |
I don't think our show was illegal. In my choir class, we did a medley of Wicked songs including "No One Mourns The Wicked", "The Wizard & I", "Popular", "One Short Day", "For Good", & "Defying Gravity/Finale." That was 100% legal because my teacher had bought the Wicked medley sheet music for the class. IP: Logged |
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Elphaba Potter Member |
Just a question to throw out there to everyone. (mostly because I'm bored on my break during my 13 hour workday!) In lots of book/musical --> movie transitions many fan-favorite scenes are cut (I can think of at least 83 for Harry Potter So, if you had a say in "wicked the movie" and you were able to guarantee that one scene was in the movie and one scene was not in the movie, what would you choose? You can answer for both a book --> movie and a musical --> movie. Make sure that you clarify which you are picking (although it wouldn't be too difficult for us to realize which one you were referring to). *Remember to pick scenes that you don't think would be included or excluded. i.e. don't pick a scene that would definitely be in there like Dorothy melting Elphie. I am still thinking about my choices but these are what I've come up with so far: musical --> movie scene I don't care for: (edited because I forgot 1 "s" and I'm anal-retentive about that kind of thing.) [This message has been edited by Elphaba Potter (edited 06-27-2006).] IP: Logged |
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~*~elphaba~*~ Junior Member |
as for the musical-->movie i would definately cut some of the dancing through life/Ozdust dancing. and i'm not sure what my must have scene would be yet. i'll have to think more about it. IP: Logged |
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MusicalTheatreObsessed Member |
Musical to movie... must be included: No One Mourns the Wicked... Some of the music in the show is more pop style than broadway.Personally I think NOMTW makes the show! must be discluded: Those weird giant humpty-dumpty creatures that dance about in One Short Day IP: Logged |
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I Couldn't Be Happier Member |
Musical: I would cut The Wizard songs, but leave the dialogue. BTW: Dancing thru Life must be there. It shows the beginning of Elphaba and Galind's friendship. IP: Logged |
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Elphaba Potter Member |
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Except for Idina's great Elphaba dance. IP: Logged |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
I do love dancing though.... I think it'd be cool to have some of it. My must have scene? The confrontation between Elphaba and Glinda when Nessa dies. I love the random catfight! IP: Logged |
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Elphaba Potter Member |
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For many movies there is a song that is considered the title song (you know, the one they play in the trailers ALL the time and starts to get annoying?). I personally LOVE defying gravity and I think that it represents the story's message quite well, which is generally what a title song does. However, I think that NOMTW would actually be a better title song for the movie. First off, it opens the musical and puts the audience in the right mood to receive the story. I also think that it has a great baseline that can be used as background music throughout the movie. (an example: Lord of the Rings uses the main Fellowship theme in different variations as background for the entire movie, changing it to fit the current audience mood and to fit the director's desire for subconscious emotional cues. Shore (the composer) did this for all three of the films, utilizing the main theme of each movie - and he received well deserved oscars for those scores. John Williams is also VERY good at doing this). I'm all of a sudden curious. I wonder if the producers and director would ask Schwartz to do the score for the movie? I think that would be smart. He does have experience in film scoring (two academy awards for Pocahontas - one of my favs). I would love to see him possibly collaborate with Danny Elfman or someone similar and co-score it. Just as long as they were EXTREMELY faithful to the original score. On another note, I noticed that the director Tim Burton has already been discussed on this board and I'm just going to add my two cents on him. I’ll start by saying that while I appreciate his work, I do not like most of it. (I somehow really enjoyed Charlie and the Chocolate Factory though - perhaps it's due to the fact that I'm a chocoholic). What I do like about him is his ability to work with dark subject matter and make it somehow uplifting while keeping it twisted. If a book --> movie transition is in store for us, I would champion Burton as my director for the film. I’m still stewing over several potential directors for a musical transition (including Burton). Wow, this is really long. Sorry. Sometimes, “once you pop, you just can’t stop.”
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Fiyero78 Junior Member |
quote: I have not seen the musical, sadly. ![]() IP: Logged |
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Green Girl Member |
quote: I have not seen the musical, sadly. [/B][/QUOTE]Well.. the same message is in the books. The stage show just sings about it instead! IP: Logged |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
I'm torn.... I hate the weird things that dance in Wizomania, but it does show that Ozians have a different form of entertainment than we do.... Still.... they're creepy little boogers. IP: Logged |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
I bet the movie could do some powerful stuff with March of the Witch Hunters if they do it right. Think of what camera angles and scenery could do for that. I just thought of that.... [This message has been edited by Nessarose Throppe (edited 06-28-2006).] IP: Logged |
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Elphaba1028 Junior Member |
quote: I couldnt agree more! I think having the original cast would be AMAZING! IP: Logged |
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~~Broom`rider~~ Junior Member |
quote: god get a life like it matters maybe it was just for fun who cares its great music with great singers and if they want to try it let them it is really none of your buisness anyways so just lay of!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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~~Broom`rider~~ Junior Member |
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WWOTW Junior Member |
I like most of the actresses everyone posted on this bulletin; but I don't think any of them are right for the cast of 'Wicked'. You might disagree, but paint Anne Hathaway (Devil Wears Prada) green, and she is EXACTLY how I pictured Elphaba as I read the book. long dark black hair, very thin, and she even has a pointed nose. IP: Logged |
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Elphaba Potter Member |
quote: I think that she meant just the dancing. Not the song or any significant parts of the plot/action. It is of course a very important scene because it is the turning point in Glinda and Elphie's relationship. Just thought I'd try and clarify IP: Logged |
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~*~elphaba~*~ Junior Member |
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Nessarose Throppe Member |
Well, I love dancing, I love watching it, or pathetically attempting to do it myself. But to hold a movie goer's attention, you either have to cut it or do something interesting with it. Again, cool camera angles can help too. I loved how they did "Masquerade" in Phantom.... IP: Logged |
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Elphaba Potter Member |
quote: OOh. "masquerade" in Phantom was lots of fun. They did definitely play with some fun camera angles in that one. Great lighting in that one too. That scene really added to the tension by building such a false sense of security in the dancers (and audience) so when the Phantom makes his entrance it's just that much more dramatic. I guess the dancing just needs to have a point and needs to be edited correctly (as in short and sweet). IP: Logged |
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Green Girl Member |
The more I read of the book the more I hope that IF they do make a movie it won't be a musical. They'll only shred the matirial anyway. I would like them to use the score of the musical if possible thou, I think that would be a great way of linking the play to the book on film. What do you guys think? IP: Logged |
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Elphaba Potter Member |
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Second, I agree with you. I really think that the movie would be lacking if the music were not included. I would like to see a movie that combines both the musical and the book. I think there are great parts in the musical that would make the movie more accessible to an audience. But I also think that the movie would be so much better if it included more of the complexities in the book. This way it wouldn't just be a carbon copy of the musical. Someone said this to me the other day and I almost lashed out in response. They suggested that this movie be done as a CG movie like Shrek. That way they could still use the voices of the original cast. I am horrified at the thought of this. Any thoughts? [This message has been edited by Elphaba Potter (edited 07-02-2006).] IP: Logged |
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*chanGed-for-tHe-betTer* Member |
NO NO NO! they can't make it CG it would be horrible, it would make it much to childish fairy tale and would loose all good material that the book gives us. I am 100% against a CG version ! Good idea about the book/musical combo! that would be so cool! IP: Logged |
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Yero the Hero Moderator |
Jesus christ, CGI? *gags* *chokes* *dies* *reincarnates and rapidly ages like sailor saturn* I'm back. CGI is a horrible idea, the worst I've heard since the beginning fo this topic. Why don't they just take out all of the darkness of the book, and all of the songs from the musical and make it a kiddy movie? IP: Logged |
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Elphaba Potter Member |
quote: Haha. I would say that I had a similar reaction. Believe me I have chastised my friend accordingly. She doesn't even like Wicked. I mean, she doesn't dislike it but she's indifferent to it. Come to think of it...why are we friends? IP: Logged |
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Green Girl Member |
I completely agree, CGI sux! It actually hurts me to watch it. IP: Logged |
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Green Girl Member |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Elphaba Potter: [B] First, "matirial" = material Hide your first borns, the spelling Nazi strikes again! Hahaha! IP: Logged |
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OfWickedDecent Junior Member |
¬.¬ I'm kinda 'against' a musical version movie. I'd rather see it follow the book closer then the play does. We have the B'way play for a musical, a book for reading, so there needs to be a movie that pulls out the darker side of Wicked (Not the Upbeat, and fantastic, music.) *Tosses two cents in the jar* IP: Logged |
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